{"id":90,"date":"2013-05-13T17:35:40","date_gmt":"2013-05-13T17:35:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/staging.redlineservice.net\/?p=90"},"modified":"2014-11-12T19:08:04","modified_gmt":"2014-11-12T19:08:04","slug":"water-cooled-911-boxster-concerns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.redlineservice.net\/?p=90","title":{"rendered":"Water cooled 911 &#038; Boxster Concerns&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you ever shopped for a new 986, 996, 987 or 997, you couldn\u2019t help but notice that<br \/>\nthose cars were expensive. You have probably also noticed that a used, clean early<br \/>\n986 can be bought for really nice 914 money, and an early, clean, 996 can be bought<br \/>\nfor nice 911 SC money. On the surface that doesn\u2019t seem right. Is this because of the<br \/>\nway they look, or something deeper?<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s examine some problems these cars can have, with a clarification that those<br \/>\nproblems might happen sooner, or later, in a car\u2019s life. To illustrate, a 1973.5 911T<br \/>\nwith CIS fuel injection will probably require valve guide replacement between 110K and<br \/>\n125K miles. An \u201987 Carrera will probably need clutch work between 60K and 75K<br \/>\nmiles. Unlike the predictability of those repairs, an early 986\/996 can have a leak<br \/>\ndevelop at the crankshaft seal, let\u2019s call that seal the RMS (Rear Main Seal) behind the<br \/>\nflywheel, but the leak might not occur until after you\u2019ve bought a low-mileage garage<br \/>\nqueen, and actually start using it.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-164\" alt=\"Watercooled rebuild\" src=\"http:\/\/staging.redlineservice.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/MarcWaterCooled.gif\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" \/><br \/>\nThe RMS and related parts can have a host of potential problems. Very early 986\/996<br \/>\nengines were constructed using a bearing carrier that supported the crankshaft and its<br \/>\nbearings. That carrier, in some engines, can move out of position, which will cause the<br \/>\ncrankshaft to be off-center inside the engine crankcase. The result is that the<br \/>\ncrankshaft will also be off-center inside the RMS, and oil will leak past the seal.<\/p>\n<p>Porsche offered for sale a device that has a precision fit for the crank to case interface,<br \/>\nand is used with the seal removed. If the tool does not fit, the technician reads in the<br \/>\nPorsche manual, \u201cthe motor must be replaced.\u201d Uh, oh. Can you imagine buying a<br \/>\ntop-dollar, show-winning, 996 with only 10K miles on its odometer? And six months<br \/>\nlater you have to spend $15,000 to replace its engine<br \/>\nAs close as one outside the Porsche system can determine, an RMS\/carrier failure<br \/>\nusually occurred in the first 15-20K miles, some as early as 8K miles, and many of<br \/>\nthose engines were replaced under warranty.<\/p>\n<p>In addition to the above, the RMS can also leak from normal wear and tear, or after<br \/>\nreplacement by an installer with inadequate skills or an incomplete tool set. Porsche<br \/>\nhas had three different installation tools, along with a number of seal updates. If the<br \/>\nlatest generation tools and seal are used, an RMS repair can usually be done with longlife<br \/>\nsuccess.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of the RMS problem, you think that you might have one, because of oil<br \/>\ndripping at the engine to transmission mating point. You remove the transmission and<br \/>\nflywheel to do the repair. It turns out that the RMS is dry, but a few inches below the<br \/>\ncrankshaft is a cover, and it\u2019s soaked with oil. That cover is usually called the IMS<br \/>\n(Intermediate Shaft) bearing cover. It is secured using three bolts. Those bolts screw<br \/>\ninto threaded holes, and according to Porsche, should be replaced with bolts that are<br \/>\nmicro-encapsulated with sealing material. When the repair is done it is also<br \/>\nrecommended the five, visible case half bolts be replaced. Replacement bolts will also<br \/>\nbe made with sealing material on the threads, and on the sealing surface of each bolt<br \/>\nhead flange.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-166\" alt=\"Water cooled Engine\" src=\"http:\/\/staging.redlineservice.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/watercooled.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.redlineservice.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/watercooled.jpg 400w, http:\/\/www.redlineservice.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/watercooled-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><br \/>\nOK, the IMS bearing cover has been mentioned, but what about the IMS bearing? Well,<br \/>\nwhere does one start regarding the IMS bearing, other than to speculate about poor, or<br \/>\nunder-engineered design. Porsche started the bearing fiasco by using a double row<br \/>\nbearing, then switched to a single row design, followed by a larger single row<br \/>\nbearing, ending with a complete re-design in 2009, when the IMS bearing was<br \/>\neliminated. It would be fun to compare the IMS bearing issue to the long-ago, 944<br \/>\nengine mount fiasco, but when difficulty of repair, and costs, are considered, it\u2019s no<br \/>\nlonger funny.<\/p>\n<p>Can a failed IMS bearing be fixed? Kinda. There is even a \u201cfix\u201d that might be<br \/>\nconsidered better than what Porsche is currently offering. An engineering firm in<br \/>\nIllinois has re-invented the wheel, er, bearing, and has made an upgrade kit to fix the<br \/>\nIMS issue. Their kit includes a ceramic bearing, which seems to have a longer duty<br \/>\ncycle that any of the Porsche bearing versions. The engineering firm, with the help of<br \/>\ndurability tests, has determined that reliable life of a stock bearing is about 40K miles,<br \/>\nwhile a ceramic replacement should last 60K+ miles.<\/p>\n<p>Along with regular oil changes, Red Line Porsche Service, in Los Angeles, CA,<br \/>\nrecommends a thorough inspection of the oil filter at each oil change. If any metal<br \/>\ndebris is found in the filter, chances are good that its origin is the IMS bearing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you ever shopped for a new 986, 996, 987 or 997, you couldn\u2019t help but notice that those cars were expensive. You have probably also noticed that a used, clean early 986 can be bought for really nice 914 money, and an early, clean, 996 can be bought for nice 911 SC money. 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